Racing sends a strong message to Select Committee

by Brian de Lore
Published 21 February 2020

The oral submission hearings held on each of the past two Thursdays have sent a strong and impassioned message to the Transport and Infrastructure Select Committee, and that is: that the racing industry is far from happy with the Racing Bill legislation in its current form.

And the process is far from complete with further submissions taking place in Auckland this coming Thursday before the Select Committee. Following that, and no doubt in consultation with Racing Minister Peters, the next phase of making the necessary alterations with a degree of rewriting to be done before a second parliamentary reading expected to be scheduled sometime in April.

All going well, the legislation will then be up for its third and final reading in June, and hopefully in a narrative much more acceptable to racing’s participants than the government stranglehold theme of control currently on offer.

The elephant in the room is now RITA which has continued its stance with a submission that says 80 to 90 percent of the legislation is okay by the Agency – a claim overwhelmingly in conflict with industry submissions which by and large are supportive of the recommendations of the Messara Review.

Interestingly, the debate on the detail of the 123 clauses of the legislation has taken the heat off racing’s current dire financial position as we move into the second half of the 2019-20 season with the half-year result due to be announced in the next few weeks.

The latest information I have is that RITA needs something like a 21 percent increase ($30 million) to meet the budget it forecast in the SOI, and after the first five months of the season was only two percent ahead of last year. And remember, the TAB received a windfall bonus of $17 million when the All Blacks got eliminated at the quarter-final stage of the World Cup.

The failure of this Bill to address the issues of increased revenue streams and cost-cutting was an omission that didn’t go unnoticed by several oral submitters

The failure of this Bill to address the issues of increased revenue streams and cost-cutting was an omission that didn’t go unnoticed by several oral submitters and, in particular, RACE Incorporated CEO Alasdair Robertson and Stan Alexander representing the Manawatu Racehorse Owners.

The oral submission from RACE is reproduced at the bottom of this blog. Stan Alexander in his statement began by saying he had entered the racing industry only 15 years ago but obviously having a lengthy corporate background, he alluded to how much cash and property value the industry had only 15 years compared to its position today:

He said: “…and now what we have is a betting platform with no tangible value as it sits there, but $35 million of debt. I am not concerned about individual clauses in the Bill, but I am concerned about how this Bill got to this stage.

“When Cabinet approved in principle that the best approach was the Messara Report, and at the same time the Letter of Expectation from the Minister to the RITA board, it said that this Report was providing the best approach to New Zealand Racing to make it financially sustainable, internationally recognised and competitive.

“… how is it we are sitting here now looking at a draft Bill that does not deliver those key factors which said Mr Messara would be the salvation for this industry.” – Stan Alexander

“And as part of this close working relationship,” continued Alexander, “the Minister understands the DIA will attend the RITA board meetings as an observer. If that was the guiding principle of what was to happen, how is it we are sitting here now looking at a draft Bill that does not deliver those key factors which said Mr Messara would be the salvation for this industry.”

Stan Alexander went on to quote Judge Clapham’s submission which also asked why the legislation did not reflect the Messara Review, and then also quoted a number of the Messara recommendation culminating with the failure of RITA to begin outsourcing negotiations.

“It comes back to having confidence in what you are doing,” he continued. “It goes without saying that no industry, business enterprise or activity succeeds when confidence is eroded, and confidence has been eroded dramatically with the arrival of the proposed legislation which fails to deliver the expectations of the Minister and the industry – which has continued that eroding of confidence.

“Clearly, over time, decisions made by NZRB have led to a massive decline in industry solvency. Mr Chairman, as I sit here today I honestly believe the industry is insolvent. We have no hard assets left, but we have a $35 million debt to a bank. Surely, any business sitting in that position – any director sitting that position in a commercial world – should be thinking pretty hard on what they should be doing and what is happening around them.

“If we as an industry continue to operate without full accountability in a truly commercial environment, the same mistakes and decisions will continue.”

“If we as an industry continue to operate without full accountability in a truly commercial environment, the same mistakes and decisions will continue. The proposed legislation does not reflect the truly commercial, competitive approach that the Messara Review envisaged.

“And I, for one, don’t have any confidence when I hear a comment like this. It came from the Chairman of RITA at a public meeting, ‘we are tracking along for the first six months in line with budget.’ Then came the caveat, which was, ‘but the next six months will be challenging.’ End of story, just that. So I say to myself, what does this mean while we are staring down the barrel of $35 million bank debt and no hardcore assets.

“What would be the attitude of the bank when RITA has not commenced the outsourcing which was recommendation number seven – in other words, the bank would be saying to the RITA board, ‘are you exploring all your options.’ The bank won’t be at branch level; it won’t be at credit level, it will be at asset management level, and I’m sure some of you understand what that means.

“RITA want exclusive rights to the I.P. and to delay outsourcing for another five to six years – I ask the question WHY? – Stan Alexander

“RITA want exclusive rights to the I.P. and to delay outsourcing for another five to six years – I ask the question WHY? Debts within thoroughbred racing are increasing, the debts in the training sector to the trainers are increasing – those are symptomatic things of the total financial position of the total industry. Breeding is in decline, and it’s all reflecting a decline in confidence.

“Ï say this, why don’t we ask Mr Messara to come back and discuss and clarify how, when, and why, etcetera. His credentials are such that we ignore them to our peril.

“Finally, I just want to put up this scenario: We have a new TAB, it owns all the I.P. We have a banker overlooking them, and if things don’t improve then we have set up the perfect scenario for the bank to say ‘we are taking over and we will sell everything you have got’.

“Mr Chairman, I don’t understand the industry, but I have a little understanding of the commercial reality of this world, and we have a very serious problem. Thank you.

RACE Incorporated Oral Submission:

Select Committee on Behalf of RACE Incorporated

Racing Industry Bill No 2

Good morning, my name is Alasdair Robertson Chief Executive of RACE Incorporated. I am accompanied by Paul Humphries Chair of RACE Incorporated.

RACE is an organization that comprises 5 Clubs being Manawatu, Rangitikei, Feilding, Marton and Wellington Racing Clubs.

Depending on your chosen metric, RACE is NZ’s largest or second-largest club with in excess of 10% of total domestic turnover.

The racing industry in New Zealand is at a watershed/tipping point in terms of its survival and sustainability.

The racing industry in New Zealand is at a watershed/tipping point in terms of its survival and sustainability.

The proposed Bill to go before the Select Committee is the last chance for the industry to be re-structured for survival and to maintain its economic contribution to employment of over 14,000 FTE and over $1.6 bn to the NZ economy.

The importance of getting this right cannot be overstated. We are facing:

  • Declining returns in real terms over time. Return to owners in New Zealand 22.9% or expressed another way -77.1%
  • Foal crop reduction. In 1995 5,264. In 2017 3,448 (34.5%)
  • There has been years of mismanagement and lack of performance from the NZRB
  • The proposed Bill facilitates a situation where a business as a usual structure can continue.
  • To put that in context and why the Codes need to be empowered to efficiently and economically run their industry as recommended by the Messara Review, in 2016 an analysis was done of the operating cost difference between the NZRB / RITA and its nearest comparison in Western Australia.
  • This was found to be in excess of $50 million against a total thoroughbred prize money pool in New Zealand of $50 million at the time.
  • We are competing in a global market with our largest competitor, and opportunity,  in Australia exponentially bigger and stronger than we can ever be.
  • Australia has 5.4 times the population of NZ but 13.2 times the amount of wagering turnover with an inherent propensity to spend of over 4 times that of New Zealand.
  • To enable NZ to survive competition and to access the opportunities that exist, this Bill must empower the Codes and provide them with flexibility to meet the market head-on without bureaucratic constraints and parochial thinking.
  • The Messara Review was commissioned at the behest of the Minister of Racing the Hon Winston Peters and was welcomed by the Industry.
  • John Messara is the most respected racing administrator in Australian history and has presided over a boom in the racing industry not just within New South Wales but within Australia overall.
  • In the last 20 years Australian turnover on thoroughbred racing has climbed from $8.6 billion to $19.5 billion AUD +126%, and prizemoney from $273 million to $603 million +120%.

A number of key elements were critical to turning around the NZ industry in the Messara Review:

  • Change the Governance structure such that NZRB is to become Wagering NZ with racing responsibilities devolved to the individual codes.
  • Establish Racing NZ as a consultative forum to agree on issues
  • Amend section 16 to a more equitable basis for fixed 10-year terms
  • Begin negotiations for outsourcing of the TAB’s commercial activities
  • Confirm the assignment of Intellectual Property by the clubs to the codes
  • Introduce Racefields and Point Of Consumption legislation
  • Repeal the betting levy
  • Clarify vesting of club assets in the codes for the benefit of the industry
  • Reduction in venues without the closure of any club
  • Unfortunately, the proposed Bill does not honour the intent or detail of the Messara Review.
  • The Bill is also significantly at odds with the Minister’s letter of expectation sent to RITA.
  • It is important that the Committee realizes that the industry is struggling to survive and we need real dollars and not just a re-arranging of the deck chairs.

So to turn to the Bill. I have confined my presentation to three key items.                           a. Industry Governance and appointment of Directors to the TAB

  1. The intention of the Messara Review was to confer broader powers on the codes to govern and administer their industry.
  2. Consistent with the Messara Review, Racing NZ was proposed as a consultative forum to agree all internal issues that needed group resolution. This would include outsourcing negotiations.
  3. The Messara Review proposed the devolution of Governance responsibilities to the Codes.
  4. The current Bill, however, proposes the dilution of control from the codes to the Minister and to Wagering NZ/TAB NZ.
  5. This is seen in:

    i. The governing body of TAB NZ consisting of up to 7 members appointed by the Minister (46)
    ii. TAB NZ is to determine the Racing Calendar for each betting year and issue betting licences (48)
    iii. TAB has exclusive rights within NZ and Australia to all intellectual property associated with all betting information etc (81)
  • It is recommended that the Bill be amended to have a code body representative or adopt the nominations advisory panel mechanism used in the Racing Act 2003 (Pre Amendment) for the appointment of independent Directors.

b. Intellectual Property

  1. Clubs and Codes have never surrendered their Intellectual Property

    2. The MAC Report acknowledges ownership of IP in the Club.

    3. Intellectual property can never be surrendered by the clubs and the codes.

    4. To do so will disenfranchise and emasculate the clubs and codes permanently and empower a 3rd party to conduct themselves in any way they see fit.

    5. The Codes and TAB NZ must collectively be able to negotiate all outsourcing and related matters that requires IP by having it assigned to the respective negotiating team.

    6. The mechanism is that the Clubs vest their IP in the Codes who Licence the joint negotiating team of the Codes and TAB / Wagering NZ.

    7. We have a supportive person in our Minister. However, that may not be the case in future and the loss of IP from the clubs and codes endangers our very existence and the potential sale or Joint Venturing of the TAB.

It is recommended that Clause 81 be deleted to preserve the status quo in relation to the use of Racing’s intellectual property.

c. Outsourcing structure or more accurately joint venture or partnership structure

This Bill has been drafted by people who appear to crave control and do not understand the global wagering market.

i. There needs to be a separation between TAB NZ and Government. An outsourcing decision is a commercial decision in the best interest of the industry.

ii. This Bill has been drafted by people who appear to crave control and do not understand the global wagering market.

iii. The codes and the TAB must have the ability to make a commercial decision regarding joint venture outsourcing. If there were any Government concerns over inappropriate periods or similar, a Ministerial caveat could be included for any decision relating to sale or contractual commitment beyond a specified term eg: 15 years etc.

iv. Australia is forging ahead because the Codes operate as commercial negotiating entities with independence of Government.

v. It is interesting that Tabcorp has been used as an example by RITA to say it follows the same commercial model as has been proposed in the Bill, and has professional Directors on its Board.

vi. Nothing could be further from the truth in terms of the commercial model and demonstrates the lack of understanding within RITA and within the Bill.

vii. Tabcorp is a commercial entity BUT is accountable to the Codes and the contractual agreement and licence negotiated by the codes.

viii. This commercial tension is enabled by the retention of IP within the codes which is 180 degrees different from what is proposed.
ix. What is proposed is to insert a 3rd independent party into the process that has no checks and balances on its direction or philosophy and has exclusive control over the Codes intellectual property.

Most people do not understand the implications of this Bill. It threatens the Messara Review and could be likened to a monopoly without any of the suppliers having shares or any representation.

Summary:

Most people do not understand the implications of this Bill. It threatens the Messara Review and could be likened to a monopoly without any of the suppliers having shares or any representation.

Thank you for the opportunity to present.

P Humphries, Chairman                                                       A Robertson, Chief Executive

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Codes present strongly at Racing Bill hearings



by Brian de Lore
Published 15 February 2020

The first day of the hearings of evidence from RITA and the codes in Bowen House Wellington this past Thursday, before the Transport and Infrastructure Select Committee, was a game of two halves – the first a very shakey and at times indecipherable presentation and Q and A from RITA Executive Chair Dean McKenzie, and the second a well-orchestrated presentation from all three codes on a united front.

It was a well-produced Facebook live stream and the Select Committee had very obviously done its homework and were ready with some pertinent questions for Dean McKenzie and RITA’s Head of Risk and Regulatory Affairs lawyer Jessica Meech who sat alongside McKenzie throughout the address and Q and A.

The address by McKenzie was sometimes hard to follow, and the Q & A afterwards produced a series of convoluted answers that at times bore little relevance to the question asked.

On the other hand, the joint submission by the codes was generally fluent, was far easier to follow, and the Q and A seemed to go a long way towards giving the Committee a better understanding of the issues in the legislation at odds with the three codes.

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But strange things seem to be happening. A little over two weeks ago in a chat with Minister of Racing Winston Peters, he said he was staying true to his word and giving racing the reform it needed – that was so badly overdue. It was a comforting conversation from an industry perspective. And again yesterday, on radio, the Minister said he knew of about seven things that needed change in the legislation to get it right.

Contrastingly, also about two weeks ago in a written questionaire to McKenzie,  one of the questions was:  “You have stated at your industry meetings that RITA agrees with 80 to 90 percent of the legislation in its current form. Can you please detail the 10 to 20 percent that requires changing?.

McKenzie’s written reply came back: “While supportive of the Bill, RITA has identified a few aspects of the Bill which we believe require amending, including (but not limited to) the following : 

  1. Changes to the Offshore Betting Charges provision as the legislation does not currently allow the degree of flexibility the industry requires. However, as indicated in the First Reading speeches, we understand this is an area the Government intends on proposing amendments to during the Select Committee;

  2. The Bill intends on introducing a framework for new products that RITA is not currently able to offer (subject to satisfaction of specified criteria). Unfortunately, the wording of the Bill potentially reduces the scope of existing betting permissions. This outcome is at odds with the intention of the reforms, and in the Board’s view an unintended consequence of these provisions. We are engaging with officials on this matter and are hopeful of constructive change; 

“Furthermore, there are a number of amendments required which are technical in nature, but nonetheless necessary. The purpose of the Select Committee stage is to make these types of technical changes. 

 “We are still working with the Codes on a few aspects of the Bill and our preferred position is to reach industry consensus where possible.”

From that response, and taking into account the 80 to 90 percent agreement with the legislation, one can deduce that RITA is happy with the legislation’s wording for the TAB board appointments, the IP, the Ministerial oversight, the regulation clause for funding distribution to the codes, the RIU, etc. Not only is this a contrary position to the three codes and almost all the participants of racing, but it’s also at odds with what the Minister is saying– why are they not singing from the same song-sheet. After all, the Minister appointed RITA.

During his address to the Select Committee on Thursday, McKenzie also alluded to the same two items mentioned above as important, and towards the end of his address added, “there is also an opportunity for Sport NZ to make representations to the Minister for TAB representation on the board.

“Easter Sunday racing is an issue for RITA in technical changes. The Board of the TAB has the discretion to determine the amount of profit available for distribution to the industry. This was the case for the NZRB board before the Racing Bill Act – RITA has considered the Bill in detail and believes that with the proposed amendments, it will revitalise the racing industry.”

The problem with Dean McKenzie’s position as Executive Chair of RITA may be that he employs the same team of executives for advising him as did NZRBs John Allen, whose legacy to racing’s history books will be devoid of having made any meaningful contribution. If you work for RITA and you want to keep your job, you won’t be promoting cost-cutting or too much change.

A big positive taken from Thursday’s hearing was the attentiveness and knowledge coming from the Select Committee, which paid the racing industry a complimentary degree of respect during the proceedings. This wasn’t just another laborious government process requiring some tempo before moving on to the next item of the agenda.

“You said you had been in constant contact and in dialogue with the industry ongoing; what’s been the feedback from the industry?” – Darroch Ball to Dean McKenzie

After the McKenzie address, the Q and A didn’t go so well for RITA when Chair Darroch Ball began by asking, “You said you had been in constant contact and in dialogue with the industry ongoing; what’s been the feedback from the industry?

McKenzie answered with this, taken from the audio verbatim: “As I referred to in our comments, the change process of the significance has corresponding views on a number of those key issues around IP, governance, those types of things, and certainly the advisory committee, and the RITA board since the first of July have heard both sides of those arguments, and not all cases arguments but discussions, and have come down in the view that’s in the submission, on balance, there’s been a lot of robust discussion, and I’m sure you will find there are alternate views, from the codes, and within the codes, to a lot of the important issues that are within the Bill.”

Ball followed with a second question: “When you say there are alternate views, is that the minority or majority?

McKenzie responded, again verbatim: “It’s difficult to talk in terms of majority and minority when they are generational issues, for example, venues – the issues around venues go back into the late 1960s when the Royal Commission Inquiry was undertaken for the racing industry; so when you talk about significant systemic issues that go back decades there are always going to be very contrasting views even through the generations when it passes through 60 years.

“Venues is a good example to show the differing views, I think everyone accepts that our capital base needs reform, that’s its inefficient and antiquated, but then when you go past that about how we resolve that, and how we get on to tackle that and move forward with it, there is certainly different views into how that’s best undertaken, but what I would say is the answer to a lot of those questions, and the venues example is a good one, then someone would have solved it in the last sixty years if it was a simple equation.

“They are very difficult, long-standing industry issues that a reform program of this significance has to address. So, when they are addressing such serious, long-standing systemic issues, there’s naturally going to be differing views on that – that’s why they have been what they have been for so long.”

If that answer hadn’t baffled everyone in the room, then nothing would.

 If that answer hadn’t baffled everyone in the room, then nothing would. Darroch Ball, seemingly not wanting to risk further questioning, passed the baton. Pukekohe MP Andrew Bayly, who has a very strong corporate background, later made a very good comment on the replacement clauses for Section 16.

Bayly said: “You talk about regulation powers, for most MPs regulation powers are the things that worry us the most because we never get to see them; they never come back before the committee; they haven’t been posted in the legislation, so we spend all out time worrying about the legislation and the regulations get made later, and we never have the oversight

“So, your arrangements for the distribution are in regulation powers. Is the original distribution which was agreed between the three codes plus the sporting formula going to be enshrined from the outset, or do we have a new opening position?”

The Facebook video provides the answer to this and many other questions from the Select Committee. During the next session, the codes gave a very well co-ordinated presentation with all three codes making strong arguments on a united front.

NZTR Chairman Alan Jackson during his address said, “As our major source of income comes from the wagering operator, there is no immediate prospect of any significant improvement in code payout, in our view, and perhaps there is even the risk of further decline

“I trust you can appreciate the industry is at an absolute crisis point.” – NZTR Chair Alan Jackson

“Racing NSW had the same serious issues as we did, but they addressed the funding issue front-on and have delivered an 84 percent increase in prizemoney over the last decade, and they now run 60 races worth $1 million or more.

“The factors that drove this turnaround are the same factors highlighted in the Messara Report – a code-driven industry, enhanced sources of income, being racefields and Point of Consumption tax, and joint ventures with globally competitive wagering operators. This allowed a strong balance sheet to invest in the areas key to improvement.

“It was underpinned by clear performance accountabilities and positive government support and action without undue interference. Unfortunately, in our view, the majority of the Bill before us today is an organisational solution to the financial challenge. In its current form, NZTR believes it will not address the key financial challenges to allow the codes to deliver on their potential and may make us worse off than we are today.”

Jackson went on to talk about NZTRs key issues of concern which were IP, the TAB board appointment process, self-determination of the codes, the RIU issue

“He concluded by saying, “Finally and most importantly though, the Bill is excessive in government involvement and control and there is no clear pathway to addressing the financial issues

“I trust you can appreciate the industry is at an absolute crisis point.”

The End



Minister Winston Peters says he’s staying true to his word



At Karaka 2020: the industry’s ex-jockeys now trainers who would love to see a rise in NZ prizemoney: From top left Stephen McKee (one trial ride), Graham Richardson (one race win), Lance O’Sullivan (Champion Jockey), Bob Vance (Outstanding Jockey) and at right Grant Cooksley (outstanding Jockey)

by Brian de Lore
Published 31 January 2020

When Racing Minister Winston Peters made his speech to open the Karaka Yearling Sales last Sunday at 10.50 AM, it was a typically hot and humid Auckland summer’s morning in rising temperatures.

But within seconds of commencement of that speech, The Optimist blog was the focus of the Minister’s attention and the heat went up to furnace temperatures.

However well researched you are as a blogger, if you generate an opinion from that research and then put your name to it and publish it, your readership can form into categories ranging from avid fans to ardent enemies.

Only a day or two before in a conversation with Cambridge Stud owner Brendan Lindsay, it was suggested The Optimist had been a bit tough on the Minister in recent times in suggesting he had dropped the ball and was missing in action; citing the examples of Winston’s recent appearance at Trentham and his commitment to attend the Karaka Millions meeting and open Karaka 2020. The feedback was good.

We all know that the Hon. Winston Peters is not only Minister of Racing, but is deputy Prime Minister and often acting PM, and has three more significant portfolios above racing in Foreign Affairs, State-Owned Enterprises and Disarmament and Arms Control. The average Kiwi might suggest racing is trailing in a long last in priority – another one we have to concede.

On the other hand, sometimes the bird won’t fly unless you ruffle the feathers. The Optimist has no intended agenda other than to point out the glaring problems of the racing industry, and by doing so hopefully generate a groundswell of support to make changes for the betterment of the participants, to keep it sustainable and to achieve change in the fastest possible time – I make no apology for that – but neither am I pretending I have all the answers.

the only bad publicity you can get is the publication of your obituary

Going on the old saying that the only bad publicity you can get is the publication of your obituary, I decided that the best course of action would be try and get the Minister back on the phone after a hiatus of nine months. However unlikely the chances seemed, it was worth a shot, and enlisting the help of NZ-First list MP Clayton Mitchell, on Wednesday of this past week, the agreement finally came in the form of a text.

From the outset, any sign of dropping the ball was gone; the demeanour coming down the phone line was saying I had been watching the wrong footy match, and here was a focused Winston Peters crashing through a pack of DIA forwards for a try under the goalposts and a seven-pointer.

The Minister on the phone exuded an air of positivity. I firstly asked about that meeting: “One of the things I talked to John Messara about was the question of industry involvement in its future management and when I said that we are setting out to ensure they control their own destiny – I meant exactly that.

“And there are parts of the legislation that we have looked hard at for a month now – in treating a range of those issues so to remove the possibility of a conflict with the industry’s sanctuary involvement going into the future. The secret is not to duplicate, though, what happened post-2003 with that legislation, because it’s clear that – the way it was constructed – it did not have the skills of the industry foremost in the provisions going forward – we have to fix that up.

“…the biggest legislation fix is the ministerial report summating what Messara said because there are points in there, which I can say, this draft does not reflect – and we’re going back to that original report”

“And we’re going to ensure that the biggest legislation fix is the ministerial report summating what Messara said,” continued Winston, “because there are points in there, which I can say, this draft does not reflect – and we’re going back to that original report.”

Suggesting to Winston this promise would be music to the industry’s ears, I then ventured into the controversy on the Intellectual Property.

“Now what happens is that the IP – the legislation improperly reflects what we were seeking. We’re not seeking to take anything from any industry at all. That’s another thing we want to fix up.

“The third one was on the clubs and venues going forward,” said Winston. Again, we are saying to the industry, it’s over to you to decide about the continuance and viability of race tracks and clubs, but amalgamation or combining with other race clubs will see them in a far more helpful situation where they don’t have to rely on central core funding for operational support.”

What can you do to ensure that we have strong industry representation on the board of TAB NZ, I asked.  

“There is a range of structures to go in to ensure that the industry stays in control, but it requires the industry to appoint and nominate their best – and not just your mate. We want the best of them at the top, allied to Tabcorp – not just my mate ‘let’s put him on’ – that’s no good.

“All I can do is put a structure in place and put a criterion alongside it to ensure we do get the best people” – Winston Peters

“All I can do is put a structure in place and put a criterion alongside it to ensure we do get the best people,” the Minister emphasised strongly. “So that’s what’s being worked on – in fact, I have a team working on this and the amendments as we speak, and we hope to have that ready for the closure time of submissions on February 11th. When we have all the submissions in, then we can quickly dossier it in, and as John Messara said, it’s a matter of the correct messaging and tweaking the words to reflect the spirit and the objectives of his report in the first place, and I agree with him entirely.

“I’m here to listen,” retorted Winston to my suggesting the feeling was that thoroughbred racing code felt they had needed more consultation on these issues. “I’m not here to ram something down people’s throats and if they think that the drafting does not reflect their intent, then we’re here to listen to them and ensure that it does.”

When I remarked to Winston that the issue of who owned the TAB had raised its head once again, he said: “Here we are in 2020 and the industry doesn’t know the answer as to who owns the TAB. Is it foremost in my mind, but I wouldn’t want to report on it now because it makes far more sense for me to wait and see all the submissions and then address that issue.”

My next question on the codes brought this response: “I have just been through the annual report for the dogs; we have trotting in a serious plight and that’s two out of three. I’ve also got to ensure the integrity unit is bolstered as well, and all these things have to be balanced out. What I’m seeking to do is have, by the end of this budget round, and to get through parliament, all the structures that we can go forward on in the spirit of the Messara Report which after all, is very similar to the McCarthy Report of 1965.

“…spend $42 million getting this betting system going – this is an appalling situation to inherit.” – Winston Peters

“In 2008 racing had something like $130 million in reserve and then they spend $42 million getting this betting system going – this is an appalling situation to inherit. However, looking at what can be done alongside other breeding industries in New Zealand such as cattle and sheep – I just want the same kudos for the racing industry.

“All I can do is ensure that we have the legislative structure and the criteria in it to bring out the very best of the industry and have it central to any decision making, but I do not want to see another situation which I encountered in 2005 when I became the Racing Minister – and had a good hard look at who was giving all the advice, and I was alarmed at that time, and I was still alarmed when I came in again in 2017.

“We’ve gone back to first principles and that’s why I got the Messara Report done, and I’m going to nurse this through parliament – and get it through I will.”

“We’ve gone back to first principles and that’s why I got the Messara Report done, and I’m going to nurse this through parliament – and get it through I will.”

On the subject of the submissions and how much weight they carry, Winston responded thus: You have to see the submissions first, you never know who might have a really bad idea. And I’m bound to follow the process and give them the respect they deserve.

“I wouldn’t advise you to tell your readership to trust the process entirely,” he continued. “You should more properly say that it’s the international examples of success they should go by, and the present powers that be, will respect and listen and draft what has to come, and clearly understand what we need to do.

“We’ve got an industry that is barely $1.6 billion and has been there for 12 years at the same level according to what I have read, while Ireland for the gallops alone is an industry worth $3.2 billion – that’s what we are setting out to do.

” …serious pathway in the future for many young people who all they want to do is work with horses…” – Winston Peters

“We’re going to do an exercise on what the industry is actually worth, and then make sure that the political system understands that racing is a huge employment creator and it’s a huge provincial boost to economic welfare and is a serious pathway in the future for many young people, who all they want to do is work with horses bearing in mind that the number one person is the owner, and then the punter.”

Winston concluded by saying: “I meant what I said at the Karaka Sales opening; there’s never been a better time to buy into the industry than right now; I’m very confident to where we are going in the future, and if all things go well in the 2020 election as we intend them to, we can do so much more.”

Postscript Interview with John Messara AM during his four-day visit to attend the Karaka Sales this past week:

John Messara Q&A

Racing Minister Winston Peters has reassured the industry this week that it will get the legislative change to fix the problems by the end of June. What would be the impact of getting this second Bill through in an acceptable form?

The first thing that would happen upon the passing of the Bill is a sense of relief, then confidence would return among thoroughbred industry stakeholders who have been so resilient for so long, and who will respond quickly when they see the legislation deliver genuine major reform. 

Once the Bill is passed into law, what in your view should happen immediately afterwards?

I believe that a ‘war cabinet’ of pragmatic industry leaders should be established to execute the major financial imperatives, beginning with the process leading to the possible joint venturing of the TAB operations.

What else would you do as a matter of priority?

The next thing would be to execute the new governance arrangements, including the selection of new boards based on the NSW model, so that the detailed reform process can begin. If all that was seen to be done, I think there would be a mini-boom in the industry, led by New Zealand and Australian investors, followed by Asian investment.

Arrowfield Stud was the leading vendor on aggregate at the recent Magic Millions Gold Coast Sale, and you were an observer this week for Book One of our National Yearling Sale at Karaka. How would you compare the two sales?

My team at Arrowfield and I are always analysing yearling sale statistics, and this year’s comparison of the Magic Millions with Karaka Book One shows how far the New Zealand industry has fallen.

Only three of the top 25 sale prices this year at Karaka and Magic Millions combined were achieved at Karaka – and none of the top15. Also, only two of the top 25 yearling sale prices at Karaka and Magic Millions have been achieved by the progeny of a New Zealand-based sire – and none of the top 18.

Then, looking at the dams: only three of the top 25 yearling sale prices registered so far this year have been paid for the progeny of New Zealand-bred mares – and none of the top six.

Looking at the first day of Book 2 at Karaka, a $34,000 average simply doesn’t represent a return for most breeders and vendors, including the private, small-scale operations that have produced many of New Zealand’s very best horses in the past.

This is not a failure of the sales company which has worked tirelessly to sustain and enhance the Karaka Sale. The reason for these results is that New Zealand breeders have not had the encouragement or the returns on their investment required to upgrade the national gene pool over the last twenty years of industry decline. However, I believe this can change quite quickly.

How do we turn that decline around even with the advent of acceptable legislation?

I expect that in anticipation of a racing industry upturn, breeders and owners would start to re-invest in mares, stallions and young horses soon after appropriate legislation is passed. Overseas investors will also look again at New Zealand as an attractive place to set up a breeding or racing operation. This will start the process, which would then feed on itself as the reforms take effect.
Remember, historically, NZ has been a great horse racing and breeding nation, and the National Yearling Sale was the No. 1 sale in Australasia.

 I recall the late Colin Hayes lobbying the then Australian Prime Minister, Bob Hawke in 1985, to amend the Australian Tax Act to “enable Australia to compete with NZ” in racing and breeding. I have a vivid memory of this as I was the person who wrote and presented the submission to Treasury! This and other reforms in Australia set that industry on the path to major recovery and success.  


In an ideal world that would begin in July with everything you have outlined above, how long will it take for the financial benefits to impact on the industry?

I believe that the joint venturing of the TAB (which I emphasise does not require the sale of the TAB in any shape or form), the sale of surplus property and the suite of other changes including those introduced in the first Act, will have a positive and immediate impact on industry morale, and ultimately viability. The industry’s leadership should be able to negotiate and execute much of this, including increased prizemoney, within a two-year time-frame from the passing of the second Act, underpinning the upturn ; and then the upgrading of tracks and facilities etc. would begin in earnest.
Back in July 2018 when I delivered my Report to the Minister, I was excited by the future ahead of the New Zealand industry, because the necessary reforms were clear to me and my colleagues, and so achievable. Today, I am encouraged after chatting with Mr. Peters’ last week that he will make it all happen and after that we’ll be relying on the work of those appointed to leadership roles.